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                <title xml:id="MRM0548">Letter to <persName ref="#Talfourd_Thos">T.N.
                    Talfourd</persName>, July 29, 1825</title>
                <author ref="#MRM">Mary Russell Mitford</author>
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                <sponsor>University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg</sponsor>
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                    <persName ref="#lmw">Lisa Wilson</persName> <!--lmw  2015-09-30. Fixing tags and adding a few notes. Pulling SI to my list. Needs Revised Header. Not proofed against ms.--><!--LMW: proofing against ms. 2017-08-08-->
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                        <collection>Mitford-Talfourd Correspondence: Letters from Mary Russell
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                        <idno>JRL English MS 665 no. 20 Coles no. 91</idno>
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                    <head>Letter from Mary Russell Mitford to Thomas Noon Talfourd, <date when="1825-07-29">1825 July 29</date>.</head>
                    
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                                        more. Letter is torn at the bottom, and a piece is missing from the
                                        right edge. Cross-writing on the top of page 1, and on
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                    <dateline>
                        <name type="place" ref="#ThreeMileCross">Three Mile Cross</name>
                        <date when="1825-07-29">July 29<hi rend="superscript">th</hi> 1825</date>. </dateline>
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                        <rs type="person" ref="#Talfourd_Thos">My dear friend</rs>--</salute>
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                <p>I have received from <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Charles Kemble</persName> the following letter--<quote>My dear <rs type="person" ref="#MRM">Madam</rs><!--kdc: Does this get a separate salute tag, because it's a letter within a letter? lmw: no.-->--I am in <rs type="place" ref="#London_city">Town</rs> but have been so very much engaged for the last few days in winding up the affairs of the past season that I could not have paid that attention to your <bibl corresp="#CharlesI_MRMplay">Tragedy</bibl>
                        <note resp="#kdc">
                            <persName ref="#MRM">Mitford</persName>had sent her play <title ref="#CharlesI_MRMplay">Charles I</title> to <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Kemble</persName> earlier in the summer.</note> which any work of yours may justly demand--This evening I leave <placeName ref="#London_city">London</placeName> &amp; shall not return to it till the first week in <date when="1825-09">September</date>; if you will then send the M. S. to <placeName ref="#Soho_Sq">Soho Square</placeName> I shall have great pleasure in reading it; &amp; I can promise you an honest opinion upon its probable success. I need not assure you that it will delight me to find it exceed in promise all your former dramatic efforts, and that my gratification will be encreased tenfold should its performance be productive of a remuneration commensurate with your patience and your toil"</quote>--then an answer to some questions I had asked about the <rs type="person" ana="#Harness_Wm #Harness_Mary">Harnesses</rs> &amp;<del rend="squiggles" unit="charas" quantity="1"/> a very kind conclusion--Now this letter is certainly kind although rather too much in the <q>"motives of charity"</q>
                    <note resp="#lmw">Proverbial rather than a direct quotation. The phrase was in common use in religious as well as legal contexts in the nineteenth century and earlier.</note> spirit quite to hit my fancy--but what a dose of suspence again!--The <bibl corresp="#CharlesI_MRMplay">play</bibl> is finished<note resp="#kdc">
                        <persName ref="#MRM">Mitford</persName>was still working on <title ref="#CharlesI_MRMplay">Charles I</title> in <date when="1825-06">June</date>, according to her letter to <persName ref="#Talfourd_Thos">Talfourd</persName> dated <date when="1825-06-29">June 29, 1825</date>.<!--kdc: Are we going to be able to add hyperlinks to other letters? -->
                    </note>--&amp; I am quite longing to <choice>
                        <sic>shew</sic>
                        <reg resp="#kdc">show</reg>
                    </choice> it to you--shall you be in <rs type="place" ref="#London_city">Town</rs> before <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Charles Kemble</persName> returns?--I am very doubtful of it--<persName ref="#Fitzharris">Mr. Fitzharris</persName>, the only person who has seen it says that it will certainly be accepted &amp; succeed--that <persName ref="#Chas1_MRM">Charles</persName> is now a <choice>
                        <sic>shewy</sic>
                        <reg resp="#kdc">showy</reg>
                    </choice> part &amp; one that will please <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Mr. Kemble</persName>--&amp; that if <persName ref="#Young_CM">Mr. Young</persName> <choice>
                        <sic>chuses</sic>
                        <reg resp="#kdc">chooses</reg>
                    </choice> to put his strength to <persName ref="#Cromwell_MRM">Cromwell</persName> it will suit him so well as to make the fortune of the <bibl corresp="#CharlesI_MRMplay">play</bibl>,<!--kdc: Do we need to flag every indirect reference within the letter, as done here, if we've flagged one indirect reference already? -->which depends entirely <note resp="#kdc">small tear at the bottom of each page, with a piece folded up</note>
                    <pb n="2"/> on the representation of that <del rend="squiggles" unit="word" quantity="1">
                        <unclear/>
                    </del> character--But I am afraid even of that--I doubt if I have sustained the tone of the part--&amp; I am sure that the first act is much the best--In short no one can have less hope than I have altogether--I believe in the first place that it will not be accepted--in the second that it will not be licensed--in the third that it will not succeed--People say by way of comforting me that I always think ill of my own doings--but that is a mistake--I never doubted of <title ref="#Rienzi">Rienzi</title>--nor of my little book<!--kdc: To which book is she referring? Earlier poems? 1st ed of Our Village (1824)?-->as far as it goes--But of this <title ref="#CharlesI_MRMplay">"Charles"</title>I do doubt most exceedingly--It wants incident wants action wants pathos wants interest wants life--&amp; I doubt very much whether the character &amp; the writing be good enough to counterbalance these terrible deficiencies. The only comfort is that the new parts are better than the old--&amp; that if I could once get the encouragement of success, I am <emph rend="underline">sure</emph> that after four or five years <del rend="squiggles" unit="word" quantity="1"/>
                    <add place="above">
                        <metamark rend="caret" place="below"/>passed in dramatic composition</add> I could write a good Tragedy--but that will not happen--I shall be driven to spinning out wretched trash of novels--I know it--&amp; I know how utterly contemptible they will be--&amp; how completely I shall sink to the level of the <orgName ref="#Minerva_Press">Minerva Press</orgName>--Well if you return to <rs type="place" ref="#London_city">Town</rs> in time you will I know have the goodness to read<del rend="ink blot" unit="letter" quantity="2"/>
                    <add place="above">
                        <title ref="#CharlesI_MRMplay">"Charles"</title>
                    </add> &amp; give me your honest opinion--If the part should please <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Charles Kemble</persName>, the excellent getting up of that house might save the play.--I understand that there are a great many candidates coming forward in Tragedy besides <persName ref="#Fitzharris">Mr. Fitzharris</persName> &amp; <persName ref="#Serle_TJ">Mr. Serle</persName>--a <persName ref="#Warde_Mr">Mr. <choice>
                            <sic>Ward</sic>
                            <reg resp="#kdc">Warde</reg>
                        </choice>
                    </persName> from <placeName ref="#Dublin">Dublin</placeName> is to come out in <persName ref="#Leon">Leon</persName>--<persName ref="#Fitzharris">Mr. Fitzharris</persName> says that he will certainly succeed in that part, which <pb n="3"/> is peculiar &amp; effective &amp; which he plays admirably, but will probably fail afterwards--He says that although much older than himself <persName ref="#Warde_Mr">Mr. <choice>
                            <sic>Ward</sic>
                            <reg resp="#kdc">Warde</reg>
                        </choice>
                    </persName> &amp; he are so alike on the stage as scarcely to be distinguished from each other. <persName ref="#Bennett_GJ">Mr. Bennett</persName> is discharged for carelessness &amp; inattention &amp; <persName ref="#Fitzharris">Mr. Fitzharris</persName> is in some hopes that <persName ref="#Kemble_C">Charles Kemble</persName> may either engage him in that situation or at least keep it vacant till he has seen him--He seems to have made up his mind not to take an <del rend="squiggles">situation</del>
                    <add place="above">appearance</add> without an engagement--&amp; that perhaps as much from confidence in his own powers as diffidence--certainly at four &amp; twenty he has time enough to go to <placeName ref="#London_city">London</placeName>--There is no doubt of his being at the head of his profession some day or other in my opinion--By the way he says that the third Act the trial scene which you did not <unclear reason="torn" unit="word" quantity="1">
                        <supplied resp="#kdc">like</supplied>
                    </unclear>
                    <note resp="#kdc">The paper is torn at the right edge, obliterating this word and the words at the end of the next two lines.</note> is exceedingly dramatic &amp; full of situation to <gap reason="torn" unit="word" quantity="1"/>
                    <supplied resp="#coles">be</supplied> sure it has now the address to <persName ref="#Cromwell_MRM">Cromwell</persName> at <gap reason="torn" unit="word" quantity="2"/>
                    <supplied resp="#coles">the end</supplied>--&amp; you must have a natural aversion to Trials--but still I am afraid you are much the better critic of the two.--How do you get on this <placeName ref="#Oxford_Circuit">Circuit</placeName>? I never look at a paper &amp; therefore do not know--&amp; above all how are you in health? This weather must have been terrible in Court--And how are all at home?--I meant to have waited for the chance of a frank<!--kdc:  Are we indicating MRM's references to franks/franking? Given the project's work on postal codes, this might be an organic connection? lmw: no, but we will be able to track which are franked based on the address leaves.-->--but <orgName ref="#MPs">M.P.s</orgName> are scarce &amp; the <placeName ref="#Oxford_Circuit">Circuit</placeName> post so uncertain that my <rs type="person" ref="#Mitford_Geo">Father</rs> tells me I had better not.<del rend="squiggles" unit="word" quantity="1">
                        <supplied resp="#kdc">wait</supplied>
                    </del>--No news that I know in <placeName ref="#Reading_city">Reading</placeName>--except that young <persName ref="#Vines_Mr">Mr. Vines</persName> is looking about for a house, &amp; that <persName ref="#Bulley_F">Frederick Bulley</persName> (<title ref="#Alcestis_play">Alcestis</title>) has gained the Demyship<note resp="#kdc">A scholarship at <placeName ref="#Magdalen_Coll">Magdalen College</placeName>, <placeName ref="#Oxford_Univ">Oxford University</placeName>, for half of the amount awarded to Fellows.</note> of Maudlin<note resp="#kdc">A derivation of Magdalen, now obscure. Source: OED</note> for which his stupid<pb n="4"/> Brother <del rend="squiggles" unit="word" quantity="1"/>
                    <unclear/>tried twice &amp; failed--<persName ref="#Bulley_F">Frederick</persName> is not yet fifteen &amp; there were six &amp; twenty candidates &amp; only two vacancies, so that this success is very honourable to him &amp; will be very delightful to the <rs type="person" ref="#Valpy_Richard">Doctor</rs>. He is a very fine lad, &amp; seems to have that particular turn which makes what is called a great scholar--a thing for which in my own <del rend="squiggles" unit="word" quantity="2">
                        <supplied resp="#lmw">peculiar opinion</supplied>
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                    <add place="above">mind</add> I have no great veneration <note resp="#kdc">The letter skips approximately the middle one-third of the page at this point, to leave blank space for addressing the letter</note> inasmuch as the only one of the species whom I have <unclear reason="illegible" unit="word" quantity="1">
                        <supplied resp="#kdc">known</supplied>
                    </unclear> <note resp="#kdc">For the next few lines, the words at the end of the line curve into the binding and are difficult to read.</note><!--kdc: I have coded these as "reason=illegible", but is there a better term, given that the problem is the binding and not MRM's handwriting?-->very intimately (your friend <persName ref="#Burgess">Mr. Burgess</persName>) having devoted his whole life to Greek plays certainly does not <unclear reason="illegible" unit="word" quantity="1"/>
                    <supplied resp="#kdc">understand</supplied> the sense &amp; spirit of them so well as I who do not know the Alphabet--But <persName ref="#Bulley_F">Frederick</persName> has that turn--he will <unclear reason="illegible" unit="word" quantity="1"/>
                    <supplied resp="#lmw">pore</supplied> for six hours together over the words of <persName ref="#Euripides">Euripides</persName>--&amp; a good fellowship &amp; a <del rend="strikethrough">scholar</del>
                    <add>college</add> tutorship--<placeName ref="#Oxford_Univ">Oxford</placeName> in <unclear reason="illegible"/> <note resp="#kdc">The following words are cross-written along the right margin of the 4th page</note> be the very place for him--He is a nice boy nevertheless, but not so fine a fellow as <persName ref="#Richardson_H">Richardson</persName> the clever &amp; the idle.--I beg ten thousand pardons for this skimble skamble letter--God bless you my dear friend--</p>
                
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                        <sic>your's</sic>
                        <reg>yours</reg>
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                        <note resp="#kdc">The following is cross-written across the top of page 1.</note>Pray <gap reason="illegible" unit="words" quantity="1"/>
                        <supplied resp="#coles">was</supplied>
                        <note resp="#kdc">Word is obscured by binding tape</note> it <persName ref="#Robinson_H">Mr. Henry Robinson</persName>
                        <note resp="#kdc #lmw">
                            <persName ref="#coles">Coles</persName> claims <persName ref="#MRM">Mitford</persName> is probably correct that this is <persName ref="#Robinson_H">Henry Crabb Robinson</persName>, although the record only shows that the attorney was <persName>Mr. Robinson</persName>. See <bibl corresp="#coles_Thesis">Coles p. 472, note 13</bibl>.  Needs additional research.</note> who lost your <unclear reason="illegible" unit="word" quantity="1">
                            <choice>
                                <sic>
                                    <supplied resp="#coles">Clients</supplied>
                                </sic>
                                <reg>Client's</reg>
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                        </unclear> horse cause<!-- LMW:  appears to be a reference to a legal case *about* a horse. Can we find the newspaper to research? --> at <placeName ref="#Bedford">Bedford</placeName>--They have put it very maliciously into the <title ref="#Berkshire_Chron">Berks Chronicle</title> &amp; on the eve of an election it had <gap reason="illegible" unit="words" quantity="1"/>
                        <supplied resp="#coles">better</supplied> not have been tried. The <persName>old Clothesman Candidate</persName><!--kdc: Coles speculates that this is Edward Wakefield, see p.525 of the PDF, note 14-->is off.</p> </postscript>
                
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                  <addrLine> To <persName ref="#Talfourd_Thos">T. N. Talfourd</persName> Esq<hi rend="superscript"/>re.</addrLine>
                     <addrLine>1 <placeName ref="#Oxford_Circuit">Oxford Circuit</placeName>
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